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An Open Challenge To Social Media Art Critics

by An Xiao on July 18, 2011

Visitors interact with my piece, Telepresent, at the opening of The Social Graph at Outpost. Image courtesy Cojo.

Visitors interact with my piece, Telepresent, at the opening of The Social Graph at Outpost. Image courtesy Cojo.

I figured the party couldn’t last forever. After reviews and mentions by the likes of the New York Times, Creator’s Project (in multiple languages), and and even a cover story in ARTnews, and after my essays bounced around the world (as did I), social media art is finally taking a beating. It’s about time.

Paddy Johnson, who has thrashed the likes of Tino Sehgal (“Fuck Tino Sehgal“), Banksy (and “his seemingly endless juvenile commentary on art“), Yinka Shonibare (“college level postcolonial critiques“), Vanessa Beecroft (“a raging attention seeking narcissist oblivious to her racist behavior“), Eva and Franco Mattes (“Hard to imagine a video that would piss me off more“) and the entire New Museum (“Committed Suicide With Banality“), has finally taken some time to attack my work, both in L Magazine and her popular art blog Art Fag City. In her usual colorful choice of words, she described it as “relentlessly banal” and “vacuous”, and she pegged me as a “consistent offender”.

Overall, Johnson and others spend a breathtaking number of paragraphs looking at work that supposedly lacks content or meaning. I’m not the type to enter social media spats, but even if I were, I wouldn’t be able to. Due to time zone differences between New York and here in Beijing, I’m rarely awake when the most heated discussions happen, and due to the Great Firewall, often I can’t even get onto Twitter or Disqus at all. So I apologize if I missed something that’s already been discussed. I appreciate those who’ve stepped in to speak about my work, and who’ve emailed and Skped with me to keep me updated.

Social Media Art: It’s Not About You, It Is About You

Twitter art criticism bums me out sometimes, but not for the reason you might think. I don’t mind being critiqued. I certainly welcome it, as it’s the only way I can grow an artist. But much Twitter art criticism is the result of light engagement with the work. Indeed, I suspect that you have to immerse yourself to truly understand social media art. The concept of the work and its documentation are important parts, but it’s not enough; there’s an experiential quality that just can’t be ignored.

Because he is not allowed to cross the Great Firewall and post on Twitter, Ai's fans have been sending him postcards. Image courtesy Flickr user duyanpili on a Creative Commons License.Because he is not allowed to cross the Great Firewall and post on Twitter, Ai's fans have been sending him postcards. Image courtesy Flickr user duyanpili on a Creative Commons License.

Because he is not allowed to cross the Great Firewall and post on Twitter, Ai Weiwei's fans have been sending him postcards. Image courtesy Flickr user duyanpili on a Creative Commons License.

It’s part of the nature of social media in general. Those who just dip their toes in Twitter see a world of donut meals and late nights with He-Man. But then one day, if you remain open to it, you start to see friendships develop, with in-jokes and shared celebrations. You start to understand that the cumulative effect of social media, in isolation and/or in interaction with the real world, is what’s important. Using social media is like one long durational performance.

We face the same challenge with the art, which is why it can be easily misunderstood if only experienced on the surface. As Vartanian wrote, he “obsessively watched” one of Man Bartlett’s performances. Others have reported this same sense of being sucked in, of being captivated by what initially seemed to be a silly concept. (For the record, I recall Johnson spending some 15 seconds with Telepresent, while Vartanian, who defended it, spent at least 15 minutes [granted, he was the curator]).

Tuning in to a social media performance only briefly can be like critiquing one corner of a painting, one frame of a video art piece. Reviewing work based on third party accounts is even less effective. It takes time for the audience to truly understand what’s going on. It takes time to understand the nature of the interaction and how it supports or enhances the concept. Putting feathers on a mannequin sounds vapid, as does sharing a beer with someone via Skype during a gallery opening. But those in the moment often find themselves drawn to the art, responding to it in a visceral, emotional way.

This need for immersion places a high demand on artist and audience alike. And as William Powhida pointed out, it also makes for an awkward critical relationship. But we’re all grown-ups here, and I can certainly think of harsher evaluations of one’s work. The series of posts of posts between Vartanian and Johnson are a welcome critique amidst a sea of otherwise positive press. The former makes a particularly good point that social media artists should start engaging with and developing the technology more, while exploring the nature of the social graph. Johnson rightly notes that social media art needs more serious critical evaluation. It can’t all be smiles.

What should good social media art look like? I have a few ideas, as I’ve been trying to encourage other artists to enter the fray. I’ve written about a number of them in the column I started for Art21 and here on Hyperallergic. I’ve commissioned a few through my art collective, @Platea. Countless artists were named in Barbara Pollack’s terrific ARTnews survey. The bravest social media artist has yet to issue a new tweet. If you don’t like my work, check out theirs. And if you don’t like theirs, start producing your own.

An Open Challenge to Social Media Art Critics

Photoglam, presented at Jennifer Dalton and William Powhida's #class, in which I reimagined the I-was-there Facebook photo.

Photoglam, presented at Jennifer Dalton and William Powhida's #class, in which I reimagined the I-was-there Facebook photo.

I want to defend my work, but I’m a little too close to the source. I do want to say that I aim always to be critical of my practice. Part of why I moved to China was to force myself to re-evaluated my work in an environment not entirely conducive to social media. Whether or not I’ve succeeded is up to my audience and to the critics and curators to decide.

But I do want to speak briefly about the driving force behind what I do. What inspires my art is the radical transformation in communications technology in the past century and a half. I seek to explore how communications technologies have altered the way we live and the way we relate to each other.

As Johnson writes, “This reality is made self evident every time I IM with an intern who’s sitting across a desk from me. I don’t need or want art to further illuminate that for me.” For someone as actively engaged with new technologies as the folks behind Art Fag City, it may be exceedingly obvious what’s happening day to day to our psyches and social relationships every time we click and tweet. But how often do most of us really think about why we so easily get sucked into new social media platforms and vent to 11,000 people what may seem like minor frustrations? How often do we think about why we’d rather IM with an intern than speak face to face?

If anything can be said about the rapid-fire series of posts and tweets in the last few weeks, it’s that social media haven’t just changed the way we approach art but the way we approach criticism. For apparently not even being worth a #follow, my work and that of others have been discussed in numerous blog posts, tweets and snarky anonymous comments already. Those who’ve written responses have had to write responses to responses, and so on. As Magda Sawon pointed out, “Social media also brings change to the of formerly unchallenged ‘critic’s voice’ as Paddy’s post gets immediate response from Hra[g], other commenters and artist, forcing her into ‘explaining herself.’”.

The Great Firewall: I willfully stepped inside the Wall to force myself to re-evaluate my work.

The Great Firewall: I willfully stepped inside the Wall to force myself to re-evaluate my work in a totally foreign social media environment.

So I’d like to issue an open challenge, social media style.  If Paddy Johnson is going to challenge me, I’m going to challenge Paddy Johnson.  I’m participating in a show coming up called Portal. It looks at some of these very issues of connectivity and social media and contemporary art practice. It will be my first original piece of work in 2011, ever since I moved behind the Great Firewall, which has been surprisingly effective at keeping my creativity at bay (it doesn’t just block sites; it slows the Internet down entirely).

I invite anyone interested in social media art to really engage with the work. Don’t worry about where you live: you’ll be able to experience the show both online and in person. Spend time with each artist’s work, get to know it beyond a cursory look. It needs to be experienced beyond simply reading the concept and looking at images.

Then, if you still don’t like it, all the more power to you. Write an angry blog post denouncing the work, but ground it in your own experience and engagement with the artists. Then hit the unfollow button and be done with it. Block us if you really despise the work.

I hope this series of posts and arguments and articles is all a tipping point, a call to action for more artists to start engaging with these media more critically and more creatively. Some artists have stepped up to the plate. Follow me on Twitter or Weibo. Follow my list of social media artists and suggest others for me to add. Engage with us and challenge us. That’s why we’re online. We need more, and we need more critical review.

I’ll end with thoughts that Stephen Truax posted recently:

What An waving and smiling from behind the camera, inciting Nate and Rose to wave and smile back, or Man walking through Port Authority (arguably the most soul-crushing building in all of New York) earnestly trying to engage people to interact with him represents to me — PERSONALLY — is the possibility of something new, and happy, and positive, might actually have the potential to be successful in the 2010s.

That sounds pretty cool. Let’s give it a shot.

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  • http://themanningcompany.com Michael Manning

    argument: you should have spent more time with my art
    challenge: spend more time with my NEW art 

  • http://twitter.com/j_d_hastings The_real_jd_hastings

    All work is better understood the more time you spend with it (as brilliantly illustrated in this comic: http://xkcd.com/915/).  That’s true for all media.

    However, I think that transience is an intrinsic part of social media and it’s a disservice to criticize people for transient interacts with social media art.  I use twitter a lot, too much by most measures, but the interactions there rarely compete with the depth of interaction I have with people in person.  At any given moment I have as many as 400 people talking at me about any number of possible subjects. If 50 of those people are engaging with an online art piece, they are still diluted unless I artificially focus on them.

    Using media that has this transitory experience as part of it’s nature while asking us to devote in depth attention to the piece alone misuses the medium itself, like asking us to view a pencil drawing as an oil painting. 

    Social media art should embrace the intrinsic properties of the medium.  When Bartlett was performing #24hKth I followed the performance from my phone while in Seattle for Thanksgiving with my family: drinking, eating and updating spreadsheets for work. I didn’t have access to the video, just twitter. Despite these limitations, I enjoyed the performance- it allowed for my transitory experience.  I could check in infrequently to see how it had developed and how others interacted with it all within the context of everything else going on around me. 

    So I do agree that to fully understand any medium we have to immerse ourselves in it, but the specific qualities of social media are that your audience will never be fully engaged.  I believe the strongest works in that medium will be those that accept and utilize that.

    • http://twitter.com/BooChradley Chris Adler

      Okay, Clement. This is an interesting gesture, but one that for me is founded all too much in the archaic notion of aesthetic “purity.” Are we really regressing back to the idea that all mediums must have a true “essence” that should be captured in order for a work to be successful?

      What the hell is the point of making rules about using things one way instead of another? So what if Xiao is asking us to invest time with a work that by its nature is ephemeral? Yes, treat it like an old master oil painting for christ’s sake! Please, adapt it for use through unexpected – or even unwanted – avenues! This is a great way to make the use of social media – or anything for that matter – more interesting in reference to everyday life. Are you really going to smite artistic license by telling an artist “NO you CAN’T use twitter that way! that’s not what its ABOUT.”

      Xiao simply asked us to spend more time with her work. Maybe she’s making creative use of social media? Oh no! What is this? ART!?

      Now, evaluating the concept behind the work is a different ball game all together – but regardless any conceptual evaluation should be informed by the artists wishes, no?

      • Will Brand

        Nobody’s disallowing her from using Twitter. We’re just saying we won’t like it if she does. The idea that critics have some sort of meaningful authority to be dispensed before art can be made is ludicrous.

        “Embrac[ing] the intrinsic properties of the medium” in no way necessitates unthinking service to those properties; it simply means having some engagement with them. That engagement is allowed to be hostile. Look at, say, Nam June Paik’s work in the ’60s: “Zen for Film” resisted the conventions and expectations for narrative and action in film, and “Random Access” resisted the conventions and expectations for linearity in sound. That’s okay. That’s allowed. Those are good works. You can also make work with more content than its medium (shock horror); bring in history, theory, culture, politics, identity, whatever. That’s also allowed. We like that. What’s bad is work without any particularly interesting content, and also without a visible understanding of its own form. What’s wrong with that?

        The artist’s wishes are meaningless. If I write a review and then have to write another piece to explain what I meant, I have written a bad review. Art is a form of communication, and if that communication needs clarifying, it has been ineffective.

      • http://twitter.com/j_d_hastings The_real_jd_hastings

        I’m not applying rules, I’m describing consequences. Media have distinguishing features that define them. Painting acrylic over oils isn’t against the rules, but the consequence of doing so is that the thing will fall apart.  The nature of this medium tends to be transitory. Work that examines that nature and undermines it could be good, I agree, and Xiao’s work may do this (ironically I don’t feel informed enough to judge). artists can choose to do whatever they want, but each of those consequences have consequences and implications.

        I just disagree with putting conditions on how the audience interacts with a piece- they have every freedom that you attribute to the artist.

      • http://ajohnny.tumblr.com ajohnny1

        I don’t think that sort of idea is a regression. In most cases, medium is a deliberate choice. Were that not the case, painting would never have fallen out of favor (or come back into it, for that matter), nor would installation or performance be widespread media. I think all media have political implications, and for that reason should be chosen carefully and consciously.

        That said, I agree that it isn’t fair to dismiss social-media art just because of its ephemeral nature. But if someone does decide to use social media to make art, I think the project should be more than mimicry of everyday practice. That isn’t illuminating.

        As for intention – at the end of the day, intention does not justify a work.

        • http://twitter.com/BooChradley Chris Adler

          everyday practice is THE most illuminating platform of study for the critically minded. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that any great piece of art holds more cultural significance than the very bag you keep your computer in. It just doesn’t. Everyday practice, is the closest we will ever come to finding god. If you don’t believe me, visit this link http://www.stevenconnor.com/magic/ 
          So okay, I’m definitely not talking specifically about Xiao here anymore, but on that dizzying note, this is why descriptions are (sometimes) necessary. How can you assume you’re learning anything if you’re just recycling old knowledge? Merely judging a work based on your own associations – what you think you know – is irresponsible, pompous, and lazy. Things get much more interesting when you’re forced to think of something familiar in an unfamiliar way via the presentation of new information as a form of guiding critical approach. It’s called learning.

          This strikes a particular chord with me, since I very much view artistic practice as a teaching job just as much as it is a questioning job (and a learning process in its own right). Artists can serve as bastions of progressive thought, and I believe that they should. Do not forget that an accompanying artist’s statement – in any form – is very much a part of the process of creating a work and the choice to include one or many is an important artistic decision in and of itself. Do not write this off as a meaningless or worthless.

          This may be a progressive approach to an already very progressive field, but it’s a worthwhile endeavor. I really think we should expand the role of the artist, the world needs artists to write more. Thanks An.

          • http://ajohnny.tumblr.com ajohnny1

            I don’t disagree that artists should be vocal. Who better to give us new insight into theory and practice? At a certain point, however, an artist’s work does have to “speak for itself.” An artist’s statement can guide the way, but the work will eventually have to open up and reveal its own fullness of interpretation possibilities. Otherwise, wouldn’t artists be better off as philosophers? Why make? This could veer off into questions about art and commodities, but if a project is presented as something to be examined in its own right, shouldn’t it be judged similarly?

            As Will Brand mentioned in his comment about Bourriaud, gallery experience and everyday experience are two separate entities. They are the same insofar as one is just as “real” as the other, but we have given the gallery a special function; we treat it as a world apart from the everyday. The gallery acts as the place where art exists separately from everything else. If we lived thoroughly-examined lives this probably wouldn’t be necessary. We rarely ponder the nature of our interactions, our habits, our everyday lives. Presumably, art helps us do that. But the belief that art and the everyday are one and the same forces us to the conclusion that the only thing which makes art “art” is the gallery – which is true on some level, but it sucks the power out of the artist and her work. There must be something more that separates art from the everyday. That “something” is what we call ‘aesthetics’.

            The learning process *requires* us to build on present knowledge. I’m willing to bet that no one changes his opinions unless he is able to connect new information with old ideas. An artwork is supposed to be that “new information” we receive in the gallery—it (and not the artist’s opinions of it!) is what we’re there to experience. Your stance on viewership (“How can you assume you’re learning anything if you’re just recycling old knowledge? Judging a work based on your own associations – what you think you know – is irresponsible, pompous, and lazy”) assumes that the audience is completely passive, unable to understand anything new unless they are spoon-fed the “answer” by the artist. When successful, the process of engaging with a work acts as the key to new insights. An artist’s statement will not do that on its own, and it won’t magically do it for art that doesn’t take steps toward doing so in its own right. Should art “question” existing assumptions? Yes. (I put “question” in scare quotes because it’s such a cliché as far as art is concerned.) But intention is not where questioning and learning takes place.

            As for the Steven Connor link: the talks sound very interesting, but the links are broken :(

    • Will Brand

      I read this on my phone and semi-shouted “Oh, fuck off!” in a hospital waiting room when I saw you link to that XKCD strip. I’d scrolled down to the comments specifically to post that.

      In any case, An, asking Paddy to spend more time with your art to make up for the time she spent that she decided she didn’t like is hogwash. A metaphor: I show you a picture of a hamburger. You say it looks fugly, that it looks like a McDonald’s hamburger, that it looks pretty old. You, for whatever reason, decide to go to the effort of taking a bite anyway. You don’t like it. You tell me it tastes bad, and that you don’t want to eat any more of it. I, in turn, tell you to buy another hamburger, because consistent engagement with my beef patties is a necessary precondition to having an opinion about them. How does that make sense? I mean, I should at least pitch the next hamburger as something new and different. Otherwise, it doesn’t really make any sense for you to take another bite, because you don’t have any reason to expect anything different; I haven’t even changed the picture of it, to say that the new hamburger will have pickles or something. I’m not saying Paddy necessarily shouldn’t take you up on your offer – in fact, I think she should – but the reasoning behind this doesn’t make any sense at all. 

      • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

         That’s a strange metaphor (or is it analogy? I can never get the two straight).  McDonald’s hamburgers are produced in assembly line fashion for the very purpose of consistency.   The burger I have here in Beijing tastes remarkably the same as the one you can find in Brookln.  Most art isn’t like that, and we shouldn’t expect it to be.

        And for the record, Telepresent, as suggested by the name, isn’t looking at Skype.  It’s looking at telepresence [http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7060/index.html], hence the use of projection to mimic a technology that’s still in development.  But as far as I can remember, you weren’t there, so I’m honestly not sure where your beef with this piece comes from.  As an aspiring critic, you should at least have first-hand experience of any work you evaluate.

        Anxiao McDonald

        • Will Brand

          So, just to summarize: 

          1) Artworks in a given artist’s oeuvre are generally well-differentiated.

          2) Telepresence != Skype

          3) I wasn’t there.

          4) I’m young and apparently bad at my job.

          Cool. Let’s go:

          1) is not particularly true generally, but I’m not interested in arguing that point. The fact remains that you did nothing to sell your work in Portal as anything different from your previous work; indeed, the phrase “if you still don’t like it” would seem to indicate that whatever’s coming up is pretty similar. Paddy’s demonstrated she doesn’t like your existing work, so there’s no reason for her to give you a second chance with a work you yourself imply will be similar.

          2) I had a feeling this would be the case; frankly, I’d be a little disappointed if a Chinese artist as politically aware as you seem to be were to use Skype, given its complicity with the present regime (e.g. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2006/tc20060112_434051.htm ). Still, “Skype” is what we call video teleconferencing today (further evidence of the practice’s ubiquity), and you yourself call it “sharing a beer with someone via Skype”. I can’t see how the differences between the two programs affect the work, but I suppose you chose the one over the other for a reason – could you shed a little light on that?

          3) Yup. Unlike Paddy, I’m entirely okay with this state of affairs. Descriptions of the work are easy to find, both in writing and in person, and it’s clear that, at best, it was your particular presence rather than any formal or conceptual content that found an audience. I haven’t found anything but the most cursory descriptions as to how you behaved on camera, which is a pretty clear indication nobody found it notable or unusual. Also, I’ve video chatted with people before. So there’s not much to the concept, there’s nothing to the form, the performer isn’t performing with any particular novelty or interest, and the medium isn’t new to me. What am I missing? Aura? Let’s not start with that again. I also wasn’t present for Jeremy Deller’s “Battle of Orgreave”, but I’m pretty sure I like it. These things are possible.

          4) I am, and I’m not. These sentences serve only to excuse yourself from engaging with my comments. 

          As to my particular beef, I see it like local politics: I’m living in Art, and when Art starts moving in a direction I don’t like, I’m going to raise hell and tell people until the neighborhood looks like someplace I’ll want to stick around in. Because I want to stick around, and keep enjoying what I’ve been enjoying. If I didn’t feel the praise for works like “Being Telepresent” authentically had a chance to make art someplace I don’t want to be, I wouldn’t have a problem. Maybe that’s a compliment, just a little bit. It’s certainly not saying you can’t be an artist, or can’t make a work I’ll like. I’m sure you can.

          Also, thanks for responding. I seem to have a particular talent for bookending threads, and it’s nice to see I’m not talking to myself.

          • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

             1. If saying I’ve not done work for almost a year now and that I’ve thrown myself into a country hostile to social media isn’t enough to suggest that my new work might be different, then I’m not sure what would.

            2. There’s a big difference between telepresence and Skype.  Telepresence involves larger screen and an attempt to mimic presence.  Telepresent was an attempt to mimic my presence in a social situation, not simply to engage in video chat.  I wanted to ask questions about the encroaching use of video conferencing to replace in-person human interaction, one manifestation of which (in my mind) would be a social gathering entirely via video.  This is why I made sure to include myself in the photos and then upload them to Facebook where people could tag themselves.  I was looking at questions of “being there” and “being seen” and digital togetherness.

            As a further note, I’m an American artist living in China.  I’m of Filipino, Chinese and Spanish descent.

            3. We’ll have to disagree on this one.  I write about art too, and I only write about art I’ve seen in person.  If I’ve not seen it in person, then I don’t review it; I just work with the ideas and refrain from offering an opinion.

            4. By replying to you, I’m engaging with your comments.

            5. Okay, but you should come to the Town Hall next time before casting your vote.

          • Will Brand

            Firstly, 2.5: My bad. I ought to have checked that. No excuses.

            2. Firstly, and I’m not sure how I didn’t notice this sooner, you yourself admitted the similarity (identity?) of Skype to your project when, in your original “Being Telepresent” post here, you said: “Beamed in from somewhere in Los Angeles, I was able to attend the opening virtually through Skype video (though I was a bit of a wallflower) and a large projection of myself.” It’s a bit dishonest to attack my use of the same term.

            In any case, the difference between Skype and telepresence still sounds like one of marketing strategy and possibly expense, rather than one of the technologies underlying the system or the experience thereof. Besides which, there are a lot of factors in believable (I understand that’s a problematic, shifting term) presence that you could easily have made stronger, no? Even going on just the lead image to this post, your head’s about ten times the size of Hrag’s. Maybe that sounds dumb, but if the aim is mimicry, that’s something you might have changed very quickly and very easily to more effectively mimic a real human (with a normal human-sized head, apologies to anyone with a head size disorder). From a bit of cursory research online, it seems that’s a problem commercially-available teleconferencing systems are aware of and aim to eliminate, pretty successfully (it’s not tough, after all). Further, by being on a screen above the camera, you destroy any chance for eye contact – which is not just a key part of socialization but a problem which, again, has been identified, analyzed, and in large part solved by the companies selling commercial telepresence systems. Also, surely a key part of social gatherings is some degree of agency – by being a passive head-on-a-screen, without the capacity to choose social partners, you become very unlike a human. You acknowledge in your first post about the work that one end of the telepresence spectrum would be your head on a robot, but in the work itself it seems you don’t even go so far as to plan to have someone walk the laptop around – a concession I’ve received many times when video chatting. Heck, I might even go so far as to say that to make yourself a head on the wall is to make yourself an accessory to the intrumentalization of social relations that is already too prevalent in our society. There are way too many ways you might have been more “present”, and way too many of them were easily solvable with the tools at hand (not to say that more tools wouldn’t have been better). If telepresence was your aim, it’s puzzling to me how many steps towards that you consciously didn’t take. I just don’t see a lot of evidence that you really tried to make that happen.

            (Edit: I should also add that social gatherings entirely through video have been to some degree mainstream since at least the release of Tinychat; I don’t know that it makes sense to phrase that like a crazy dream. Certainly not now that we have Google+.)

          • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

             Firstly, don’t worry about it.

            Secondly, why are you up at this hour?

            Thirdly, maybe you should write your critiques at this hour because this
            is the kind of analysis that I think makes for good art criticism. 
            It’s constructive and specific to the piece and its realization; it’s
            well-researched and factually correct; it doesn’t meander into art
            historical references not originally cited by the artist; and it doesn’t
            make sweeping generalizations about an entire art practice based on one
            piece.

            As mentioned above, I won’t defend my work, because I’m biased.  I don’t
            necessarily agree with every point you make, but I do find this to be
            the kind of criticism I accept and willingly reflect on.  Of all the
            comments you’ve made, it’s the first I find intelligible and
            productive.  I hope you write more like this in the future.

            I’m honestly still confused why you’re critiquing a piece you haven’t
            seen or engaged with, but we’ve discussed that point and appear to
            disagree entirely.  My issue overall is not being critiqued but the
            practice of critique: critics overall need to spend more time with work
            before attacking it outright, and if they do attack it they should
            research it more thoroughly.  Hence the third part of my blog post.

            Fourthly, I disagree that social gatherings via video are mainstream
            yet.  It certainly exists, obvs.  Christi Nielsen has done interesting
            things with Seesmic video gatherings.  But the technology just isn’t
            there yet for mainstream use, and the majority of Internet users aren’t
            video chatting socially with a lot of people yet.  Google+ may change
            that, but we’ll see.

    • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

      We appear to agree more than you think.  Following a performance amidst Thanksgiving and daily life sounds pretty close to immersion to me. Of course, it’s manifested differently due to the nature of the medium.  Immersion with social media characteristics.

      “Social media art should embrace the intrinsic properties of the medium. 
      When Bartlett was performing #24hKth I followed the performance from my
      phone while in Seattle for Thanksgiving with my family: drinking,
      eating and updating spreadsheets for work. I didn’t have access to the
      video, just twitter. Despite these limitations, I enjoyed the
      performance- it allowed for my transitory experience.  I could check in
      infrequently to see how it had developed and how others interacted with
      it all within the context of everything else going on around me. “

  • http://twitter.com/KiangaEllis Kianga

    None of us really has a full understanding of what is going on in and with “social media art” because it speaks to and involves the extraordinary transformation taking place in society and in the very brains of individuals using social/new/digital media on the Internet. 

    I have become an active follower and fan of this space because artists have throughout history been among the first to communicate knowledge about the evolution of the ages. Their art works have spoken of new scientific discoveries and trends in society BEFORE they have been fully understood.

    I am convinced that something new and significant is happening in this work. I have received glimpses over that past 18 months or so since I first started paying attention (thanks to participating in Powhida & Dalton’s #class at Winkleman Gallery http://kiangaellis.wordpress.com/2010/06/03/homage-to-class-and-moma/). 

    I am not suggesting social media art is beyond critique just because the artists and audience, all of us if we are honest, are struggling to grasp where our increasingly networked existence is taking us. However, I do think a sensitivity to the bigger questions this work is dealing with must be incorporated into an honest criticism of the work. And sustained engagement with it is essential to develop an credible opinion.

    • Will Brand

      “Their art works have spoken of new scientific discoveries and trends in society BEFORE they have been fully understood.”

      This is precisely the problem with much of the art you’re attempting to praise. Most of my beef with An Xiao’s “Being Telepresent” was that it seems to have been twenty years late to the party in a theoretical sense, and five years late in a cultural sense – we pretty much knew what Skype was about by the time that work was made. Frankly, it’s a tough racket: social developments are at this point largely the products of technological developments, and artists with the skills and inclination to pursue social projects rarely have the skills or inclination to presage technological progress. It would be really fucking impressive if they did. I honestly don’t know how far social media art can go in the medium-centric vein that’s predominating right now when artists patiently wait to receive their tools from the Web Developer Gods at the same time everybody else does.

      • http://themanningcompany.com Michael Manning

        A good example being Cory Arcangel’s Blog critique piece ‘Sorry I Haven’t Posted’ which he made in 2010 a good 13 years after Blogger was introduced. 

        • Will Brand

          Exactly! I had that in there, actually [this is not a put-down], then took it out because I was sure someone would be all “rah that’s not social media art you gotta engage more then you’d know these things”. Not only was it behind the times in a tech sense, but the idea of needing to post on a daily basis stopped making sense early in the 2000s as distribution methods got better, and people no longer needed to go to much effort to see if you’d posted that day. 

  • http://bungy32.tumblr.com/ Jonathan Gray

    Thanks, An, for hitting the exact right note with this response.  Of course, an artist wants *useful* criticism in order to grow.  Unfortunately, you have to work pretty hard to cut through Paddy Johnson’s snark to find the useful in her critique.  But bless you, you do that work as graciously as possible in this response.

    Long before there were social media art critics there were social media critics.  They, too, typically fail to spend much time with the medium.  When they do, they demonstrate a lack of reflexivity about their interpretive frames. 

    Johnson’s oblique and cursory reference to Bourriaud at the end of the L Magazine article is telling to me.  I’m not sure I would call relational aesthetics a paradigm-shift in the art world (there will always be galleries and critics and money and prestige to be bickered and bartered over), but it does represent a challenge to the business of doing art “as usual.”  And I think the alternatives it offers to some of the more pernicious aspects of the oh-so-hipster (“there, I said it”) Art Scene are refreshing.  Johnson seems fixated on the slippery slope (“worst-case-scenario”) of Bourriaud’s call if collaborative art is not dealing explicitly with social conditions.  I don’t know which is more frustrating: the erasure of much of social media art’s implicit and sometimes explicit addressing of a variety of social conditions, or Johnson’s lack of concern for her own privilege in making these charges.

    But so, thank you for making a challenge for what should not need saying: Namely, spend sufficient time with the art if you want to say something meaningful, either negatively or positively.  And if you don’t like it, move on.  Social media artists are doing just fine with plenty of folks finding that work meaningful and resonant (and isn’t that what just sticks in the craw?).  Of course, they are exploring territory that the art world still struggles to understand, where art happens in and as networks of exchange.  If all a critic has to offer is a yawn and an eye-roll (that he/she somehow musters the energy to type on a keyboard even in the midst of disdain for new media), I don’t think it is the artist who is “vacuous” or “relentlessly banal.”

    • Will Brand

      Maybe she’ll come by and do this herself, but I can clarify Paddy’s thoughts there on relational aesthetics. 

      Bourriaud very clearly explains that what is to be valued in social art is the creation of novel, anti-establishment, or otherwise revolutionary social realities. The form of a social artwork, then, is to be found in the space between it and everyday society: “Form can only come about from a meeting between two levels of reality” (Relational Aesthetics, p. 24). By making a work which closely adheres to existing social realities, we make bad work: “For homogeneity does not produce images: it produces the visual, otherwise put, ‘looped information’” (this immediately follows the previous sentence). An Xiao’s work too often fails to produce new levels of social reality, and particularly fails to produce realities she has newly made possible, or realities which agitate against our everyday reality in an interesting way. Work which fails those criteria is, following Bourriaud, bad. 

      The extra-bonus thing here is the narrative of technological progress, newly added when “social art” becomes “social media art”. That adds ideas of hope, of forward motion, and failing to produce new realities in an area so stewed in those ideas seems like a particular failure. It’s the same feeling one gets when talking on their handheld instant communicator/cinema/all-knowledge-ever device, and simultaneously passing by a homeless person who can’t be afforded four walls and a roof. We have so many tools, we have this enormous nongovernmental – at times antigovernmental – network that can make all our wildest dreams come true. And yet, the work doesn’t seem any better. It’s not that Bourriaud is bad, it’s that he clearly sets out his parameters, and we fail them. It’s worst-case-scenario in his own terms. And online, that’s disappointing indeed.

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

    My favorite words on the subject of durational experience and critics come from a 2009 interview with Christopher Weingarten. Weingarten runs the @1000timesyes:disqus  twitter and reviews albums in 140 characters. In 2009 he reviewed 1,000 records in a year. 

    Where do you get the time to review 1,000 records in a year? Do you listen to every one in full?

    Oh boy…well, that’s a very weighted question. It’s a very weighted question because people think that there’s no way that you can tell the worth of a record by only listening to a part of it. With a record I like, I’ll obviously listen to the whole thing. But with the records I don’t like, occasionally I won’t make it to the end. People say that you have to absorb the entirety of the artist’s work to really get to the centre of it. But that’s an idea perpetuated by struggling artists, the really bad ones that think that critics should treat them like the special snowflakes they are. I’d say that every record gets a fair listen. I didn’t have to sit through all 90 minutes of Alvin and The Chipmunks to know that it’s a terrible film. And if I go see Alvin and The Chipmunks, I know I’m not going to see Citizen Kane at the end.

    Let’s be honest, we’re dealing with a lot more Alvin here than we are Kane.

    • http://hragv.com Hrag Vartanian

      You’re still glossing over the fact that you didn’t even show up to see the original work you criticized at all.

      • Will Brand

        Hrag, you write about art. Professionally. Your job is to explain to other people things about art, in words. Why is it so difficult for you to explain to Paddy, in words, why her criticism is wrong, rather than attacking her personally or insisting she needed to be there longer/harder/better? 

        I say, “Ooh these balloon doggies are too shiny! How gaudy!”. You say, “Ah, but that supports the artist’s point about our commodity-driven society!”. I say, “Ah, you’re right, the materials have been used in an appropriate and interesting way!” This is talking about art. Paddy, and I, and J.D., and others have noted specific things about these works which do not appeal to us. Are we incorrect about the factual details of those specific things? Are we incorrect in our reasoning for why they are negative? Why are you so unwilling to actually deal with this art? 

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

        As I understand it, The Artist is Kind of Present is not the subject of this post, so I didn’t feel the need to hash that out again. As I have already acknowledged in previous threads, I did not see the work in person, and yes, it would have been good to have mentioned this, as I did not mean to create the intention that I had. That said, I still don’t have any evidence to support the idea that this work is made any better by the experience. Seeing as how you saw the work, and you like it and feel the experience is essential can you please tell me why. Let’s start here:

         ”… I found Xiao’s performance strangely personal and intimate, but also isolating.” 

        This is a good description of how you felt, but I don’t understand enough about the experience to know why it was significant. Can you cite specific examples from that exchange that led you to that work was really great?

        • http://hragv.com Hrag Vartanian

          You love to deflect issues. Not interested in playing along.

          • Will Brand

            So, what, we’re supposed to sit around reflecting together on how horrible Paddy is? Is that where you want this conversation to go, to the unquestioning berating of one of the better critics in the city and a personal friend of yours? Why can’t we just talk about art?  

            Speaking of deflecting, I’m not sure you’ve directly responded to a single one of Paddy’s remarks on the works since your first post.

          • http://hragv.com Hrag Vartanian

            Will, I think you are taking this too personally. This is about published statements, not sure why you are making this personal.

          • Will Brand

            Show, don’t tell. If this isn’t personal, spend less time attacking Paddy’s experience with the works, less time accusing her of evasion, and more time dealing with the ideas that caused her to write these pieces in the first place. They’re out there, in text, in plain language, just waiting to be engaged with. 

            Stop telling us we’re not spending enough time with An Xiao’s work, while simultaneously not spending any time with our work. We deserve more than two-line comebacks, deflections, and GOTO 10s.

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

            I think it takes a great deal of intellectual dishonesty to claim that I’m deflecting the issues when I’ve both acknowledged that I didn’t attend the performance and have sought only to understand why you think this work is valuable. If you want to continue a crusade over the various ways I lack integrity as an art critic that’s fine, but don’t tell me you’re not playing a game. 

          • http://hragv.com Hrag Vartanian

            That’s your opinion and I respect that.

          • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

            Xiao is celebrating the body electric and you, Ms. Johnson (and your cutting sidekick), sling bile at her from your remote bully pulpit.** For shame!

            What we’re being given here – yes, given, because it is a gift – is an opportunity to participate in the mystical, profound, and exceedingly generous emanations of a human being and an *artist*.

            For you to (as Mr. Vartanian so rightly stated) “deflect” the fact that you never had the decency to engage fully (15 seconds! Pshaw!) with this magnificent gesture/unfolding is telling: you do not believe in the Glory of the Individual, Being, Arts & Expression – you, flatly put, do not believe in the Power of Creation and/or the rich, swelling bounty of seeing bad/boring/dumb things through. MUCKRAKER & MANSLAYER!

            Henceforth, I boycott your groundless criticisms and your right (duty?) to call out shitty-shitty-gang-bang Social Media Art.

            GOOD DAY.

            **Actually, wait… don’t you guys, like, share an office? Is the air-conditioner on the fritz or something? Sounds like it’s time for some team-building exercises: http://bit.ly/pZbx3j

    • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

      We should ask Weingarten if he listens to albums for 15 seconds before making up his mind.

  • http://twitter.com/johnpyper John Pyper

    The sad truth is that some published critics only engage for 15 seconds with any art that they review.
    That reality tv show last year had more thought behind the reviews for its contestants than some writers can muster.

    • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

       Bad criticism in my opinion.  Arts writers need to spend more time with work.

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

        15 seconds is a bit of an exaggeration don’t you think An? I didn’t talk to you for very long, but I was directly infront of your piece, watching others interact with you, while discussing it and other works in the show for more than half an hour. I guess that experience of the work isn’t the one you’d prefer, but it was part of mine. 

        But again, if you’re concerned I didn’t “get” the piece because I didn’t talk to you for long enough, I want to know what I missed. Talking about how long someone spends in front of a piece isn’t the same as talking about the art. 

        So here’s my challenge to you: If you explain what you think I missed about The Artist is Kind of Present and Being Telepresent, and why you think that work is valuable, then I’ll see “Portal” online and discuss it. Let’s try and move this forward.

        • http://twitter.com/anxiaostudio an xiao 4.5

           If it’s true you were there for longer, I stand corrected.  I only recall you actually interacting with the piece for 15 seconds, but I was in the heat of the performance and I wouldn’t have noticed you standing nearby.

          I don’t normally like to defend my work, especially completed work.  That’s particularly true of the two pieces you reviewed.  It’s been over a year now since I first performed Artist Is Kinda Present and nearly a year since Telepresent.  They’re only recent in that they were mentioned in the ARTnews story, but I’ve since moved on as an artist.

          My article is more about social media art in general, a look what my drives my work, and then a critique of critical practice.  As an arts writer myself, I believe every artist should get their due.  I interview every artist for about 30 minutes and then see the work for another 20 before proffering an opinion.  If I haven’t seen the work, then I only engage with the ideas.  It’s not about being a snowflake; almost all the arts writers who’ve reviewed my work, from the NY Times to ARTnews to Alan Lupiani, have offered the same professional courtesy.  I was surprised to see my work reviewed so critically in L Magazine with no offer of an interview, especially as you hadn’t attended it.  I would have expected more from such a well-established critic.

          However, since we have hung out in person together, and you’re friends with friends, I think I owe you some response regarding my work.  I’ve moved on from Telepresent and have no interest in reperforming it or defending it.  I think Will made some good points above in the thread, and it might be interesting to explore those angles, but frankly the piece is behind me now.

          I did reperform AIKP recently in Shanghai.  In NY, AIKP was performed in a very particular context in New York, while Abramovic was still performing herself.  I was curious about performing on Sina Weibo and how the piece would be received in a totally different culture amongst people who don’t know me and were unfamiliar with my work or that of Abramovic.   I found it a very rewarding and thought provoking performance that stood that critical test for me, though I likely will not reperform it myself (though I intend to post “instructions” for anyone curious to try it themselves).

          The physical set up of AIKP is very important and deliberate.  The sitting posture is one of meditation, and I used cushions from a Zen sangha.  Meditative practices across cultures and histories have found that the cross-legged or kneeling position are conducive to concentration.  It provokes heightened awareness, as anyone who’s done yoga can attest.  The face to face orientation is also intended to increase awareness of each other’s presence and subtle nonverbal cues while depriving each other of more overt verbal cues.  The SMS/Twitter format, which is more akin to verbal culture, is a highly alienating form of communication that we’ve grown accustomed to because it’s the most convenient way to communicate at the moment.

          It’s an uncomfortable, unfamiliar and highly decontextualized way to interact with someone via electronic media and face to face.  It’s not quite like being an office, nor is it quite like the tongue-in-cheek texting I do with friends at a restaurant.  It’s a highly concentrated means of interaction.  This is probably why Hrag found it both intimate and isolating and Powhida didn’t even want to sit down.  Others texted and Tweeted me when they saw me but they too refused to actually sit, even while I pushed them.  Those who did sit stayed for a long time, because it created a unique social dynamic that made them rethink the way we relate to others via technology and why SMS and microblogging have become popular the world over.  And particularly because of the meditative posture, it forced them (and me) to fully experience the conversation and understand how the digital medium influences human relations.

          I should also note that this is my latest comment on this thread, as the comment threads have become way too personal and unconstructive, and I’m having difficulty keeping up anyway from behind the Great Firewall.  I’m happy to continue this conversation over email or Skype to those interested.

          Thank you for reading, supporting, critiquing and engaging with my work.

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

            Hi An,

            Thanks for your response. A couple things before we get to the art itself:

            1. There’s a school of art criticism that says one should never talk to the artists before reviewing their work as it taints a pure reaction. I review a lot of art I haven’t talked to artists about, and I don’t think it’s a problem in any way shape or form. Galleries provide press releases, artists write artist statements, this is what that material is for. If the art and/or documentation can’t communicate without the artist, its probably not very good. 

            2. Any artist building a practice upon work that they’ve done in the past needs to be able to reflect back on the work they’ve done and sort out what’s effective and what’s not. For that reason, I think the ability to look back on old work and at least discuss it is essential to any healthy art practice. I would hope that’s the ultimate goal here. The fact that I share mutual friends with a person or am an acquaintance with that person hasn’t ever guilted me into doing anything I didn’t want to do before, so I’m surprised to hear that’s a compelling reason for your response.

            The Artist Is Kind of Present (AIKP)

            I’m not surprised to hear your rationale behind the physical set up of AIKP, but fundamentally those poses are about creating a greater self awareness and heightened sense of ones own body by eliminating all voices but your own. It’s through this gained awareness one connects to the universe,  not the person in front of them. To me, this distortion of purpose exaggerates one of the characteristics of media technology I don’t like: no one ever gets to be alone.

            Anyway, I’m guessing you don’t agree with this perspective and perhaps won’t find it that useful, so I’ll ask you about the format, since I also have questions about that. You’ve spoken a lot about how people would sit down with you for extended periods of time, but very little about the people who repeatedly returned. Given that the effects of meditation are cumulative I wonder what you did to encourage people to return. Surely the more they return the better their experience will be. 

            Of course, meditation isn’t supposed to have “goals” — people aren’t even supposed to have expectations — so the piece generally seems a poor fit for an art world context, which demands such things. I concede however that I may just be speaking for myself. 

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

            I’m posting this on behalf of An: 

            Non-Art

            1. That’s a reasonable enough point of view, and I can see the benefits.  But does that school also believe in reviewing work without seeing it in person?  I know this point has been debated over and over, but it seems strange to me to offer such a strong opinion of a work based only on documentation.

            2. I can see your point; there are some works where I’m happy to do that and others where I’m honestly just not as interested.  I don’t, for instance, spend too much time evaluating my old photographic work.  I’ve moved on as an artist.  I’m responding to you not because of guilt but because of a general sense of respect I have towards people I have some kind of personal relationship with.

            AIKP
            I 100% disagree that meditation is only about isolation or connecting with the universe; that’s just one school of thought but meditation has a long, well-established social and goal-based tradition.  Abramovic’s performance taps into this and can be seen as a recontextualization of a centuries-old practice.  There are many forms of social meditation from Tantra to Tai Chi.  Many meditative traditions involve becoming closer with an individual, becoming more mindful of someone else outside of yourself, and not connecting to the universe.  Taoist Pushing Hands is a particularly popular one, and in Vipassana meditation there is one practice I’ve done that involves being fully mindful of the person in front of me.  There are also many goal-driven meditative practices, including Qi Gong and contemporary cognitive behavioral meditation.  You’re referring to one form of meditation that’s very popular, but it is also a very limited definition.

            AIKP, then, is not about never being alone in social media, but never being alone with one person.  Socializing online is a highly fractured experience.  In the early days of social media, it was possible to chat with just one person, and email with just one person.  That’s no longer possible.  AIKP sought to create anexperience where one *could* be alone with just one person (though I grant that people could have received texts/tweets from others), and, in doing so, fully experience what exactly is social about digital media, and where the gaps might be.  It’s important to experience the medium in isolation and concentration to fully understand its potential for society, for oneself and for art. This is why AIKP is both intimate and isolating.

            In terms of repeated use, unfortunately that didn’t fit within the format of the exhibitions, although I would like to try that.  In both NY and SH, it was a one-time performance within the bounds of the respective exhibitions.  I agree, however, that that would be a compelling direction to explore, given additional time and resources.  This discussion has also given me more motivation to upload “instructions” for how others can recreate the performance should they want to experience it themselves.

            These are my final thoughts on the matter, at least on this forum.  It’s too much of a hassle getting onto Disqus from over here.  Sigh.

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Paddy Johnson

            A couple of points in response: 

            First, what’s the point of even using Twitter if its public component is completely irrelevant to the piece? 

            Second, the mediations cited don’t prove that meditation is social (and I think “narrow interpretation” is overstating the matter slighly); the Taoist meditation of pushing hands isn’t an exercise you can even complete with a phone in your hand so I don’t see why it’s relevant to the piece at all. Vipassana, is cited in Wikipedia as being defined by introspection; being mindful of another infront of you, isn’t the same as actively communicating with them. Some QiGong mediation has goals — self improvement — but again, I see no mention of meditation that involves other people. Whatever the case, I can’t help but think that the piece would be better served through more specific methods. If these meditations are so important to the work, why was there so little mention of them? Meanwhile, Buddhist, Hindu and Taoist mediations ALL view attachments and desires as problematic areas when trying to develop spiritual growth. Many view iphones as attachments, addictions in fact. I can see this isn’t a perspective you share, but again, I think the piece would be better served by addressing these concerns. 3. As it stands, the core idea expressed — that one can be alone with one other person while using social technology — may imbue the use of technology with more religious overtones, but fails to tell us anything we don’t normally experience every day. Is it different for me to DM my intern over twitter as opposed IMing her? If we’re both in a kneeling position does that change the exchange significantly? I did this just now with my intern and guess what — experiencing the piece in person didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know. 

      • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

        “but frankly the piece is behind me now” http://www.artsjournal.com/artopia/images/tale92.jpg

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