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# Hank Willis Thomas and Eric Gottesman on Their Arts-Centric Super PAC #Podcast
- URL: https://hyperallergic.com/hyperallergic-podcast-hank-willis-thomas-and-eric-gottesman-on-their-arts-centric-super-pac/
- Published: 2016-06-07T01:48:21.000Z
- Updated: 2025-11-24T16:29:17.000Z
- Description: In our third episode of the Hyperallergic Podcast, we talk to artists Hank Willis Thomas and Eric Gottesman about their For Freedoms Super PAC.
- Author: Hrag Vartanian
- Tags: Podcast, Eric Gottesman, Hank Willis Thomas, #wp, #wp-post, #image-position-hidden, #Import 2025-11-24 07:17 (2016, 2017, part 1)

![One of the images circulated by For Freedoms featuring the work of Carrie Mae Weems (via)](https://storage.ghost.io/c/51/f8/51f871d8-b6be-4a73-b958-0ca4fff0110a/content/images/hyperallergic-newspack-s3-amazonaws-com/uploads/2016/06/ikfbyp3oodzaxlybtfgo.jpg)

One of the images circulated by For Freedoms, featuring the work of Carrie Mae Weems (via)

In the third episode of the [Hyperallergic Podcast](http://hyperallergic.com/podcast/), we talk to artists Hank Willis Thomas and Eric Gottesman about the [For Freedoms Super PAC](http://www.forfreedoms.org/?ref=hyperallergic.com), which promises to shake things up during the 2016 US Presidential election by inviting artists to reflect on important topics during the run up to Election Day.

![The author interviewing artists Hank Willis Thomas and Eric Gottesman. (photo by Gisele Rigatao for Hyperallergic)](https://storage.ghost.io/c/51/f8/51f871d8-b6be-4a73-b958-0ca4fff0110a/content/images/hyperallergic-newspack-s3-amazonaws-com/uploads/2016/06/img_2082-640.jpg)

The author interviewing artists Hank Willis Thomas and Eric Gottesman (photo by Gisele Rigatao for Hyperallergic)

In the podcast, which was recorded in Thomas’s Midtown Manhattan studio, we discuss why artists need a Super PAC, what the goal of this unconventional “art project” is, and if this initiative will continue beyond 2016.

The For Freedoms Super PAC is partly inspired by US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s 1941 State of the Union Speech, in which he outlined his vision of [four essential human freedoms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four%5FFreedoms?ref=hyperallergic.com): freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom from fear. Norman Rockwell popularized these ideas with a series that appeared in the *Saturday Evening Post* on February 20, 1943\. The artworks were [immediately popular](https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm142.html?ref=hyperallergic.com) and more than 25,000 readers requested full-color reproductions suitable for framing.

![wyatt_gallery_hank_willis_thomas_for_freedoms-700](https://storage.ghost.io/c/51/f8/51f871d8-b6be-4a73-b958-0ca4fff0110a/content/images/hyperallergic-newspack-s3-amazonaws-com/uploads/2016/06/wyatt_gallery_hank_willis_thomas_for_freedoms-700.jpg)

For Freedoms is planning to buy advertising across the country to promote their images and causes, and engage with the larger electoral debates. Will this represent a new way to raise arts-related issues to the voting public? This, among other questions, is the focus of this project, which is only just getting started as the artists continue to fundraise and commission artworks related to relevant causes.

Thomas and Gottesman’s Super PAC will be the subject of [an exhibition at New York’s Jack Shainman Gallery](http://www.jackshainman.com/exhibitions/24th-street/?ref=hyperallergic.com) that opens on Tuesday, June 7\. The exhibition will feature work by Carrie Mae Weems, Jim Goldberg, Alec Soth, Dread Scott, Xaviera Simmons, Rashid Johnson, and many others.